Too many cars

"Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's" (africantacoman) 05/16/2020 at 22:40 • Filed to: None

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Howdy yall wanted to share some car things. So I bought a very garbage but RUNNING LS400. I now have 3 parked around my apartment.

Its very rusty, but it ran great the ~300 miles home. The plan is to remove the engine and trans, reseal that whole mess with a new timing belt, idlers, pulleys, all that. And new motor mounts and a few other new goodies. It has an 8/10 black interior that I could part out to recoup some $, but I got the whole car for less than a VVTi 1UZ+trans sells for anywhere I can find. This is all to save my OTHER black LS which suffered timing failure;

And I helped my brother out today with buying a 2004 Volvo S60R. Very interesting car, and has some scoot. Inline 5 cylinder, turbo, AWD, automatic, 300hp. Feel free to ask me anything youd like to know about it!

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's 05/16/2020 at 23:06

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Timing failure = belt snapped from pushing the limits of the 90k mile service?

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's 05/16/2020 at 23:11

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I fucking hate UCF20 facelifts.

That is all. 

sony1492 > Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's 05/16/2020 at 23:12

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The front calipers off that gen have value to sc400 owners, they'd sell on eBay no problem 

Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 05/16/2020 at 23:20

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Oh no no, I just have the WORST luck in the world. All the bolts to the drivers side cam fell out. 10k miles after I did a full timing belt job. I never even touched the bolts that fell out. This pulley should not be crooked, nor should there be oil around it. 

Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 05/16/2020 at 23:22

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I never liked them either, I muuuuch prefer the front end of the 95-97. But the VVTi engine and 5 speed trans shit all over the earlier cars. I still have my 97 for when I want the more old-school driving experience

Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's > sony1492 05/16/2020 at 23:23

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Oh yeah, the big 4 pot front calipers will definitely be coming off. I think one of them is a brand new/remanufactured one too 

sony1492 > Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's 05/16/2020 at 23:28

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Also when the time comes id be interested in the crankshaft out of the dead engine

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's 05/16/2020 at 23:32

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Well that's unfortunate.

Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's > sony1492 05/16/2020 at 23:34

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Ill keep it in mind! Art project or automotive project? 

sony1492 > Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's 05/17/2020 at 09:06

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One of my 1uzs spun a rod a while back. Everything is still good except for the crank (and it needs rods but ill get aftermarket ones)

Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's > sony1492 05/17/2020 at 17:11

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Ah yes I know you have also had many woes with the 1UZ’s. Is the VVTi crankshaft not different from a non-VVTi crank?? 

sony1492 > Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's 05/17/2020 at 17:54

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I don’t know how close they are, but I’d be willing to bet the price of shipping that the bearing diameters are the same and it would need to be rewei ghed to whichever rods I use (since the vvti uses lighter rods)

Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's > sony1492 05/17/2020 at 18:11

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I’ m going to swap the oil pans between my 2 engines anyway (donor car has a dented pan that I don’ t like the look of) so pulling the crank should  be easy, ill holler when i get to that point. Figure a few weeks at most

sony1492 > Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's 05/17/2020 at 18:17

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My email is: sony1492@gmail.com

And id pay up to $100, if that doesn't seem worth it, its no problem 

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's 05/17/2020 at 23:25

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My main issue is the little niggly items that break on them that are 10x harder to find than they are on previous gens. Stuff like the vents above the radio.  And they’re a huge pain to put an aftermarket radio in. And there’s no button to disable the auto tilt steering wheel.

Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 05/18/2020 at 02:10

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Do people move their vents all the time or something? I know they’ re fragile (both of my facelifts have broken vents) but I pretty much never move my vents. Its hilarious that people will charge as much as like $100 for mint vents, but thats supply and demand.

I also do not understand in the least bit why everyone thinks its harder to put an aftermarket radio in a ucf20. Ive installed my Sony AX5000 double-din in both my 97 w/Pioneer and my 98 w/Nakamichi and its literally exactly the same in each. Wires are wires, + and +’s, amp signal wire, etc . I don’ t believe in adapters and expensive harnesses when I can do the same thing for free, and Im never going to reverse it. Yes you have to either run new wires to the stock sub, or replace the sub, but they’ re 20 year old speakers. Very easy to replace, and very cheap.

I’ m biased, I have a fetish or something for these old cars. I know all their issues, but I let them slide because its a ridiculous amount of car for very very cheap. Fuck i wish mine had a disable tilt button lol I could probably rig one...

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's 05/18/2020 at 09:11

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The vents break when people try to remove them to access the radio. Incredibly fragile combined with a not-obvious and unorthodox removal procedure.

98+ Pioneer use weird CANBus signaling for the stock amp turn-on instead of just +12v. No way to utilize the stock amp with an aftermarket head unit. Pre-facelift Pioneer and all generations of Nakamichi can be made to work with just wires.

Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 05/18/2020 at 13:18

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H mm I never broke any of my vents removing them, its a oddish way with those clips inside the vent but a little flathead wedged in did the job.

And yeah ive heard all about how the Nakamichi is a weird canbus integrated system. But again, I have a 98 ucf20 with Nakamichi and I had 0 issues installing my aftermarket headunit. The wiring is no different from any stereo ive worked with, and I was utilizing the stock Nakamichi amp. 

Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's > Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's 05/18/2020 at 13:37

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Had brain fart, I meant Pioneer system. Ive always thought it odd that the nakamichi is the easier system in the facelift cars. Here the wiring diagram for both systems, only major difference I see at a glance is the rear speakers are on a separate plug on the pioneer, plug E. Otherwise power and ground and amp signal are all there and the same.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Bylan - Hoarder of LS400's 05/18/2020 at 13:58

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I dunno man. I played with mine for hours with a multimeter, test probe, etc. trying to get audio to come out of the stock amp unsuccessfully.

My vents exploded due to poor directions. The Crutchfield instructions for the facelift cars say to pry from the outside of the vents, like on the pre-facelift car. Queue exploded impossible-to-find vent and a very upset Jake. I emailed Crutchfield and they sent pictures that clearly show a technician prying from the outside edge of the vent instead of using a flathead screwdriver from the inside, but there is no way I can see that ever working except dumb luck.